A M1 with high wood is going to bring a high price. Barrel Date: March, 1943, Action Type:Semi Auto, Detachable Magazine. $145.00 ea. C+B I.I.P. If inventory ran out it could shut down production. However, if a carbine has all of the above parts (T4 barrel band, rotary safety, adjustable sight, parkerized bolt, etc.) Inland Mfg - Engineering & Presentation Gifts. They made 7 of the parts including receivers, but no barrels, between May of '43 and Jan., of '44. Underwood supplied barrels for Irwin-Pedersen (page 50). There is virtually no color distinction between Others merely fill the holes with glue of some similar substance and paint the area in an attempt to hide these marks. It also has a S'G' stock and hand guard with an IP butt plate. These marking(s) and their location(s) varied based on needs and/or intent. Ths M1 Carbine has since been refinished. A few stock and/or carbine restoration This resulted in an unknown number of "presentation" carbines possibly having the same serial number as the earlier Engineering carbines. It should be remembered, however, that the arsenal rebuild procedures did not always include reparkerizing the metal. A plain SG with no other markings is also stamped on the front left of the receiver. The receiver, bolt, and trigger group have been refinished. In 1942 the Ordinance District requested of General Motors Saginaw Steering Gear Division take over the M1 carbine production assigned to Irwin-Pedersen in Grand Rapids. And here are some as yet unidentified maker's marks (Please send me an e-mail if you know for certain who made these. Read about the Saginaw (S.G.) carbines and history here: Please don't Private Message me for Carbine questions. The smooth push button safety is marked E-SG which is a Saginaw SG mark (page 95 & 185). It's an S'G' not an S.G. Dating a carbine by its serial number alone is difficult and not always accurate given the circumstances inherent with manufacturing and the logistics situation Instead of buying a gun thats I do know it is a really nice M1 and I would not part with it. They are a little bit rare, and the price is usually way too high. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. The Carbine Collectors Club. The elimination of the bridge strengthening the stock forward of the trigger housing weakened this area making it prone to cracks. The receiver is marked Saginaw S'G', the barrel shows Underwood 8 43 with the bomb underneath. M1 Carbine Production Dates * All dates and serial numbers are approximate * MFG Month Year Ending Serial # Inland - Inland Manufacturing Division of GM November 1941 5 WRA - Winchester Repeating Arms Co. December 1941 10 Inland - Inland Manufacturing Division of GM May 1942 999999 WRA - Winchester Repeating Arms Co. September 1942 1349999 The barrel markings are well defined. requires each be assessed individually to determine its historical significance. If a Saginaw S'G' strip it down to see if it has any IP Irwin Peterson parts, could be a transitional carbine. Is any of this "original" or a product of a couple rebuilds? The best way to ensure an item is yours is to purchase it directly off the website. Ordnance had left off with serial number blocks assigned during WWII. By signing up you agree to Guns.com's to the assigned serial number blocks. There is, however, spotty wear and thinning along the barrel and around the muzzle. Copyright 2011-2023 All Rights Reserved. Letter prefixes X through XD were initially allocated by Inland for carbines intended for internal use only. The technical storage or access is required to create user profiles to send advertising, or to track the user on a website or across several websites for similar marketing purposes. Lock, Stock & Barrel Investments The barrel has been treated with cold blue. A few manufacturers used some serial number blocks out of order. Most everything can be easily bought online these days. In 1942 the Ordinance District requested of General Motors Saginaw Steering Gear Division take over the M1 carbine production assigned to Irwin The adjustable rear sight came into use sometime before the T4 barrel band and some relatively late production carbines made by several makers were originally fitted with adjustable rear sights. 4 1/16" (approx.) Overall, this rifle rates in about Very Good Plus condition. Except for very early Inlands, virtually all carbines were stamped on the right side of the stock with the familiar crossed cannons Ordnance Department escutcheon. standard for all type V M2 pot belly stocks by all manufacturers. s/n's intermixed w/IBM s/n's (also see Table E & F). This product contains chemicals known to the state of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. Contracts had a completion date but there was no requirement for completing one contract before starting another. Mechanics:The action functions correctly. I recently purchased an M1 carbine manufactured by Quality Hardware that has a bayonet lug. http://m1family.com/general-history-rbine-t33.html, http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/serialnumbers.html. Features include a 18" 4 groove barrel with an excellent Saginaw 15 round magazine. The barrel is marked "SAGINAW S.G. DIV. Some of these blocks were split up and used before or after other blocks. 15 round magazines: Originally packed 100 to a case, with cardboard dividers and separate wrapping papers for each magazine--usually a brown or reddish heavy wax paper. Two of the most significant areas to observe are the barrel and rear sight base. SIG Sauer MCX Review: Next-Gen Modern Sporting Rifle? This Inland M1 Carbine was made back in 1944. This is due to the fact that, except for extremely late production Winchester and Inland examples, WWII carbines will have several features in common. serial numbers concurrent to receivers being made by the prime contractor and/or other subcontractors assigned lower or higher serial number blocks. The same caveat basically holds true for the rotary safety. The rifling is sharp. The barrel flat is marked with a flaming bomb. You sir have seemed to have done a lot of research on the history of each manufacture. The T4 barrel band (with integral bayonet lug) was only utilized in factory production weapons by Inland and Winchester and did not come into use until very late 1944 or very early 1945. The receiver is marked SG under the wood and uses a wide locking tang. Additional markings were sometimes added by end users at some point after the carbines were issued. The bore is mint. For more information: www.p65warnings.ca.gov. The M2 stocks were often used as replacement stocks for the M1's. then allowed to dry. An Ordnance supplement Keep in mind, U.S. Used early in production. 7 day inspection period on all website purchases. The letter P was also used as an inspection proof mark placed on carbines rebuilt by U.S. Army Ordnance. on a limited basis prior to the introduction of the M2 stocks but no documentation has been I shaped sling cut, High Wood covers slide ): B [circled] (I've seen some cases of 100 that were marked Winchester, but packed with these "B" magazines-- could they be a subcontract from Bridgeport?) annual growth rings, giving Birch a somewhat dull, uniform appearance. This has been added to help people figure out name brand of parts they have. American Black Walnut heartwood can range from a lighter pale brown to a dark chocolate brown with darker brown streaks. Every week we put items for sale starting at $1 ! and appears to have come later. The fact that the vast majority of these weapons were subsequently modified after the war during the extensive post-war overhaul (rebuilding) programs has resulted in unaltered carbines being rather elusive. A very scarce WW2 Saginaw manufacture U.S. M1 Carbine .30 Caliber Semi-Auto rifle. The barrel is marked "SAGINAW S.G. DIV. Without a subpoena, voluntary compliance on the part of your Internet Service Provider, or additional records from a third party, information stored or retrieved for this purpose alone cannot usually be used to identify you. These receivers may not have had serial numbers when provided to Grand Rapids. When the narrow L type non-adjustable rear sights were replaced by the adjustable variety during overhaul, the later types were generally staked into place by punch pricks on both sides of the sight base. rebuilt from spare parts. Probably the quickest way to determine if a carbine remains in its as issued World War II configuration is to examine a few key parts. There is a P stamp where it should be. The desirable and hard to find original M1A1 folding stock paratrooper carbines are particularly prone to faking and the above books should be consulted before any purchase of such a carbine is consummated. Is it SAGINAW S.G. or SAGINAW S'G'? Good luck. The trigger group is marked SG on the right rear which was used by Saginaw SG and Irwin-Pedersen (page 78). We believe we sell living history, and honor the veterans who fought and died for our freedoms. Inland receivers initially rejected because of an off spec deep hole drilled for the recoil spring and guide, later recovered and altered to use a detachable main spring housing). Generally speaking, there is nothing wrong with a competently restored carbine, Probably the quickest way to determine if a carbine remains in its as issued World War II configuration is to examine a few key parts. The new serial number was hand stamped on top of the receiver behind the rear sight, in the vicinity of the prior serial number. Click Here to view our Gunbroker page! the machining of the wood below the recoil plate to provide better support. Refer to the page on Post World War II Activities for a list of the markings and further information. The stock was cut to accommodate the selector switch located on the left side of the receiver. marked: JM, Amco, MMQ,J.M.Q. Saginaw Steering Gear in nearby Saginaw, MI was already engaged in the preparation for Questions should be posted in the appropriate forum. Bogus trolling question. Factors like durability, reliability, and functionality are all important things to consider when choosing your next hunting go-to. The receiver is marked Saginaw S'G', the barrel shows Underwood 8 43 with the bomb underneath. numbers (i.e. Parts marked with any other contractors code are almost always a sure sign that the carbine is not all original. But for some reason, buying a gun online can The stock rates in about Very Good Plus overall condition. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for statistical purposes. Irwin-Pedersenran into a number of production issues and was not able to fulfill their government contract. over the years has sometimes conflicted with the information in these documents. As a new member I must admit that my interest in the M1 carbine was relatively limited until I found a little beauty that my favorite gun dealer had originally wanted to keep for himself. XA27, XA62, XD14). Common sense will dictate that a well used stock would not have pristine stock markings. Fun to shoot and ammo is readably available, I have about 400 rounds with it. Many of the marks have damaged small portions of the surface wood. Ordnance also inspected Saginaw SG took over the Irwin-Pedersen facility in April of 1943 and produced M1 Carbines using Irwin-Pedersen and Saginaw SG parts. Stocks made of The barrel shows scrapes & small scratches as well as discoloration from oxidation and from the cold blue. Rebuild marks are rarely forged as they devalue the carbine in the eyes of most collectors. Four of the prime contractors did not have the ability Because of this popularity, testing and use of the carbine for purposes well beyond it's original design became fairly common. As stated, the overwhelming majority of carbines were overhauled by the government after WWII and many of the original parts replaced by later pattern parts. and is not a very late production Inland or Winchester, one may rest assured that the piece is a post-war rebuild or has been assembled from parts. The top of the barrel is marked UNDERWOOD / 9 43 and P. On the outside this stock appears the same as the type III M1 stock but for the cutout for the M2 selector switch. *Post Reserved in case I run out of space*. It is in about Very Good Plus overall condition. The Grand Rapids facility stopped carbine production on 01 Jan 1944 but continued to make receivers and trigger housings which were sent to the Saginaw Plant for assembly. The fact that the vast majority of these weapons were subsequently modified after the war during the extensive post-war overhaul (rebuilding) programs has resulted in unaltered carbines being rather elusive. The left side of the receiver (under the wood) is marked X and has a tooling hole at the rear. Saginaw or Saginaw'. Ok to answer the second part of my own question, "RA-D" is actually RA-P and its a factory rebuild code for Raritan Arsenal, New Jersey. This included a few of the previous Engineering carbines no longer needed. The stamps used for the Caliber .30 Carbine stocks are also available. Caliber: .30 Carbine. Saginaw SG guns were produced from the remnants of the failed Irwin-Pedersen factory in Grand Rapids. for use with a select fire mechanism. Such markings can be sanded off by someone wishing to remove such evidence so any sanded areas make the stock suspect. Here is my $50 Saginaw S'G' - IP Carbine. contact us using the forum. The technical storage or access is required to create user profiles to send advertising, or to track the user on a website or across several websites for similar marketing purposes. Need Help Identifying Marks and value on My New SG M1. After WWII Birch became much more common. The stocks were also stamped with code markings which are normally found inside of the sling recess on the left side. To provide the best experiences, we use technologies like cookies to store and/or access device information. Our goal is to encourage collectors by providing honest descriptions, fair prices, and the best customer service. All original WWII carbine bolts are believed to have been blued. GENERAL MOTORS" It has been fitted with the adjustable sight, type 3 barrel band, and rotary safety sometime in the past before my family member acquiredit. Bolt is parkerized. Front sight marked with N. Military Crossed Cannons Cartouche on right mid stock face. I purchased this one from a collector freind of mine who told me it was an S' G', but with the information provided here it appears to be incorrect. American Black Walnut had a long history of A full parts list with their markings is included in the photographs. Any opinions on how rare/popular collector is a Saginaw stamped M-1 Carbine? Waste of time. More data submissions are needed to help determine any patterns. Forgeries are a serious concern for collectors. IP used some Rockola wood at their start up. of 0.5. A little history of Saginaw (S.G.) and its carbines. Boasting classy lines, a well-recognized pedigree, and great ergos for a small all-steel gun, Smith & Wessons take on the Walther PPK/s aimed to revive an old carry king in the increasingly polymer-focused concealed carry market. Need Help?service@guns.comCall (866)582-4867, PO Box 1131 13800 Nicollet Blvd Burnsville, MN 55337 2023Guns.com. There is also on the left side of the stock just aft the trigger guard, a square cartouche stamp with S.A. inside the square and a C stamped inside the square below the S.A. The quantity of carbines used by their Engineering Section varied so the numbers with each prefix also varied. Underwood name removed, Winchester name & s/n, Underwood name not lined out, Underwood s/n, Inland s/n'd receivers sent to National Postal Meter, Inland s/n'd receivers from SI subcontract sent to Underwood, Inland s/n'd receivers from SG subcontract sent to Underwood, Irwin Pedersen s/n'd receivers sent to Underwood, Underwood s/n'd receivers sent to National Postal Meter, IBM s/n'd receivers from AO subcontract sent to National Postal Meter, IBM duplicated some of s/n's they assigned to AO, Overrun into unassigned s/n block & Winchester s/n's, Machine error duplicating Winchester s/n's. Below is a breakdown of the parts: Barrel: Inland. Early Swivels: Unmarked Late Swivels: Marked "UI" "U" -Winchester: Didn't mark them. Older Post The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network. This isnt to say that there is anything wrong with such a piece, but if someone is looking for an original WWII carbine, they need to keep looking. Receiver or barrel or? It looks good and has a strong bright bore. It shows light soiling on the canvas as well as scrapes & discoloration on the metal. been observed but are uncommon. This information may appear to be over-simplistic to an advanced carbine collector but is nevertheless a good starting point to help evaluate the originality of a carbine. We did not fire this rifle. In the majority of cases, however, the parts should all be marked with the prime contractors code. While there is no substitute for experience when examining a carbine, there are several things to look for that can give valuable clues as to the originality (or lack thereof) of a particular carbine. Our research indicates that it is an Irwin-Pedersen subcontractor mark from the Keller Bras Company. during the time the carbines were manufactured. There is, however, spotty wear and thinning along the barrel and around the muzzle. M2 selector switch, it was a type III stock manufactured by Winchester or Inland prior to This change was not implemented in conjunction with the longer barrel channel Taming the SFAR: How Ruger's Small-Frame .308 Runs Suppressed. Where the standard rear sight would be there is a pedestal, the top of which has been milled. Some stock companies intentionally place the inspection mark and crossed cannons in a location and orientation that makes them recognizable as replicas to those familiar with authenticity. Visit our website for new treasures daily. -Saginaw (S.G.): Marked Right Side: "PO" "SG" -No other contractor made these -Type III (Post War) -Could be marked: "SA" "RIA" "P" "R" -Bolts -Type I (Flat Bolt) -Inland: were parkerized, the tint and texture of these parts varied. I have a Saginaw M1 Carbine. It has seen some use but most of the markings are in great shape. This M1 Carbine is 1 part short of being considered all matching. The practice of restoring the overhauled carbines by replacing later and/or non-original parts is a widespread practice among many collectors today. Lock, Stock & Barrel Investments due to a lack of original documentation. with Inlands war effort. Commercially manufactured modern day replicas of the dies/stamps used for markings are often used in "restoration". Through our YouTube channel, we strive to educate and share the stories behind the artifacts we sell. We would like to encourage you to share information you may have that will help reconstruct what was actually done versus planned. Caveat Emptor! 30 M1. and the top rear is marked SAGINAW SG / 3289121. There is a difference. I bought it a few years ago from another Calguns member. The early Type I stock is a Saginaw SG stock made after SG took over the factory, but it was still made in the samefactory as the previous Type IIrwin-Pedersen stocks. G.S. Resulting in the change of the design to the type V stock. The underside of the handguard is marked with a flaming bomb and a partial IR-IP stamping which was used by by Irwin-Pedersen and Saginaw SG(page 138). Occasionally, an L type sight might cover most of the circular punch marks so close examination should be performed to ascertain whether these exist. Get a heads up on all of our Sales, Promotions, and news updates (about 1 email per month). It was normally placed on the front of the handgrip (above right) but sometimes appears on the bottom of the handgrip. Color can sometimes have a grey, purple, or reddish cast. If a receiver has its original barrel and the Get Guns.com offers and news!! A total of over 6.1 million M1 carbines of various models were manufactured, making it the most produced small arm for the American military during World War II (compared with Yellow Birch heartwood tends to be a light reddish brown, with nearly white sapwood. The Type IA barrel band is marked KV-SG which is a Saginaw SG mark (page 59). It is a rare M1 Carbine that is 1 part short of being all matching. The band will have 3 spot welds. The left stock is stamped M-U where the sling is inserted, apparently meaning Marlin Firearms made the stock; walnut with a high wood, two rivet handguard. The crossed cannons escutcheon on the right side and other government markings should be present, albeit often faint from years of wear. Anticipated shortages led to the use of yellow birch. The practice of restoring the overhauled carbines by replacing later and/or non-original parts is a widespread practice among many collectors today. Made in the Winter of 1943. for you to submit by CLICKING HERE. The barrel is an Underwood barrel that was supplied to Saginaw SG. Manufacture date shows 9-43 with barrel date 9-43. The bore shows an M.E. With World War 2 M1 sling. Alcohol, Tobbaco and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency. A circled P in san serif within a 1/2 inch diameter circle stamped in the bottom of the handgrip (above left) was sometimes used as a proof mark at several prime contractor facilities to indicate a completed carbine Box, Paperwork & Accessories:There is no magazine. Most of these marks are light or small. This rareIrwin-PedersenM1 Carbine is in Very Good Plus condition. Photograph has been reversed to show the appearance of markings that would be produced by the fake stamps. All Rights Reserved. There is grease residue on the receiver. SOLD - Saginaw Gear M1 Carbine. to the Saginaw Steering Gear (SG) contract turned over carbine production at the Grand Rapids facility (S'G') to Saginaw Steering Gear. The top front of the receiver is marked U.S. 317XXXX. Saginaw took over production in Grand Rapids and marked the facilities M1 Carbines SG to differentiate them from the ones produced at the original Saginaw plant. A few of the manufacturers used subcontractors to manufacture their receivers. The magazine release is marked cc / M (faded) which is a post WWII rebuild mark (page 100-101 & 185). A full parts list with their markings is included in the photographs. another state. This Irwin-Pedersen M1 Carbine uses almost all original Irwin-Pedersen parts that were made prior to Saginaw SG taking over. The high wood refers to the stock, not the hand guard. 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