The ballistics, gun, speed at which she drove the car, her demeanor, etc. They are set in stone and people refuse to see it any other way. It appears that you have to be a perfect mother with no lovers and not afflicted with any mental illness to be considered innocent until proven guilty in America. Her character was also too much on the forefront. I appreciate the way you dont try to determine guilt or innocence in your blogs but instead focus on due process and the right of all to a fair trial. Seems like she was her worst enemy. In fact, Knick admits Diane took that gold chain as collateral against a $500 LOAN she made to him. Diane was found guilty and sentenced to life and she has been in prison ever since. It would never happen todaynever. They would have tried to reopen the case. Take your smugness elsewhere, at long last. Diane was instructed to reenact her response to the attacker who murdered her daughter. Robert has resided in Tucson, AZ in a mobile / manufactured home with Tommy. You hit the nail on the head by stating that in the US especially, they seem to shun complex ethical problems preferring to deal with absolute evil in order to exert absolute power to crush it. It has become entertainment and there can only be good, bad and evil. I agree with your comment. They claimed to have found two lead cartridges in Dianes rifle at home that supposedly matched the ones used during the crime. I wasnt there and the records will never be brought to light as far as the child welfare case. Then they just got shut out. They had him micromanaged, and with the testimony of little Christie they were in business: argumentative Nobody ignored Dianes demeanor. Many individuals associated with the the child welfare system, for one reason or another, choose to adopt children. A sick kid who had a stroke and traumatized being pressured for weeks to remember her mother killing her? They went through the process which demonstrates a certain level of commitment in itself. Grief researchers say holding that missing funeral service, even a year or more later, can still help us heal. She did diagnose her as suffering from cyclothymic disorder and treated her accordingly. It seems that not being American might help us view the case and Rules narrative with more objectivity. Mr. Lori, I luv how you ended your comment Lets also remember that this is the US of A and we dont lock people up for being narcissistic, antisocial histrionic individuals. Hugi did not want that. You left and you and Diane Downs spent an evening at a motel? From the very beginning, the DAs office had their ducks in a row because in an unprecedented move, Judge Gregory Foote who had denied access to the children by all blood relatives and given their care over to the State, was promoted from juvenile to senior judge to preside over the trial of Diane Downs. It is not, nor should be, a Conflict of Interest for a caring adult to Foster one or more siblings. Her release was recommended by a warden and a psychiatrist. Thank you Lise. It was pitch black outside. Too bad she did not interview Diane or her family. Nobody knows but her. They came up with an explanation as to why this was the wrong gun but the jig was up. Regina, I love your comment! It may take up to 1 hour for your comment to appear on the website. Her daughter told the media she watched Small Sacrifices several times. , The lovely Farrah Fawcett who played in the movie, Anne Rule might have inflamed the case with her book, Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), The Diane Downs Case Was no Small Sacrifice. I go through every new finding and I point out what was done at trial that did not respect due process. In reply to Kit No gun, no blood or gun residue on her and if she shot them, these elements should have been there. I encourage you to read all the facts before being so sure that she was guilty or that she acted alone. I think she was the only one there that night with her children. Lives in Dallas, TX. Mainly because she is being kept caged due to her name recognition at this point, not her offense. A demonstration in court strongly suggested: Suggested, not confirmed. Nobody had any reason for a conspiracy of this magnitude over a literal nobody. I am not from USA, never have been there, but my impression is that in USA media are far more powerful than the justice system and rational thinking is crushed by easy emotional moods, stereotypes and a hunger for violence coated in a pompous moral attitude. Yes, but it is a fact that she was starting to say that she did not know who shot them when it happened. ..it is quite possible if she was tried in todays world, with the evidence they hadquite possible it would of went differently we been living in a society that pretty much demand 100% pure forensic evidence proven. My website is in the process of being migrated so it has no photos. And she clearly remembered the April 1983, rape that Mr. Downs would later refer to as love making. We could say that it was suggestive on his part, but considering how this trial was conducted, I tend to believe it happened. Jennifer and Sarah Hart killed themselves and murdered their six adopted children in 2018 by driving their SUV off a cliff in California. This case had many similarities to the Alice Crimminsstory. If Hugi got attached to the children, why did he wait 2 years when little Christie was starting to say she had no clue who shot them? My opposition to movies about true crime stories is unshakable. Not exclusively a USA trait, this happens also in many countries, but in a technologically advanced superpower like USA this attitude is more shocking, and maybe also more worldwide spread. What I believe doesnt matter at all. I found nothing. It does seem time has done worse to her. Robert Knickerbocker in Phoenix, AZ Robert Knickerbocker may also have lived outside of Phoenix, such as Carefree and Scottsdale. And if you add the fact that they never found the gun, it doesnt leave much evidenceto back upthe theory that she was the shooter. Mr. Jagger said it wasnt t enough to know a witness had lied, but she would have to prove it. For example, the abhorrent decision regarding Keli Lane: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.whimn.com.au/talk/news/why-i-think-keli-lane-should-not-be-in-prison/news-story/069a09c79589645c48de5bfa91e4ca0f. At the point Diane jumped into the car, her broken arm (resting in a sling in front of her) slammed into the steering wheel. I will post it when I get it. I think that Van Houten was recommended for parole by a system that assessed that after 40 years, she was not a threat to society and a reformed woman. And they kept at her and made suggestions when she would not implicate her mom. They brought cakes and cookies and became friends so they were not going to fight over this. It took months to get Christie to say that her mother was the culprit and that is when they arrested Diane. View the profiles of people named Robert Knickerbocker. There are 3 court records for "Robert Knickerbocker" in "Pima County". Instead of blaming societal problems and working at finding solutions, prison always seem to be their option. And on this site, I mention that I take a restorative approach. It seems that the Downs were totally ignored. Fingerprints at the crime scene were not produced by the State. Leslie Van Houten is an example of a woman who probably will never see the light of day because of her high profile status. Or that they are not even curious about it. After the trial that convicted Diane Downs, Fred Hugi, the Prosecutor adopted Christie and Danny (they were in foster care for 2 years before he decided to adopt them), the two surviving children. ..maybe it was lack of Internet and cellies *shrug)..years later, my Co worker at burger King (I was 16)told me about the small sacrifices movie she watched the night before. I mention in the blog that Dianes mental health is in question so it is obvious that her encounter with her long lost daughter was going to be difficult. Downs was born in Phoenix, Arizona, in 1955 and attended Moon Valley High School where she met and fell in love with her future husband, Steve. I dont disagree, I just think it is another example of flaws in our justice system. She had one arm totally out of commission. The powers that be knew they had nothing on Diane so Christie became their sacrificial lamb. A test for the presence of gunshot residue conducted on Dianes hands the night of the shooting, returned a negative result (Appendix 23). Anne Rule made a big deal of a brass unicorn engraved with the childrens names that Diane had purchased. (520) 293-.css-1y2reja{color:transparent;position:relative;z-index:12;text-shadow:0.1rem 0.1rem 0.6rem #089FE4;}JPTD, aka Robert C Knickerbocker, Robert a Knickerbocke. They did not want reunification to keep their verdict intact. I like the way you keep an open mind about Diane herself and what she may or may not have been going through mentally. It is a research done on the case according to many sources. Nobody near to help. Expand the Memories and Condolences form. That hurt our family deeply. The chief prosecutor adopting the children beggars belief! He was interogated but, the police never had a reason to doubt him. The kids were shorted-changed. During Dianes examination at trial, Fred Hugi said in front of the jury, in the form of a question, that she had been diagnosed as a , Anne Rule made a big deal of a brass unicorn engraved with the childrens names that Diane had purchased. Dianes story does not contradict that. And if she did it, she has served her time without displaying any violent tendencies whatsoever. So Diane did what she thought would bring her the deepest satisfaction in life; she became a mother. She had no priors and no history of violence in prison. 78 court search results for people named "Robert Knickerbocker" in the United States. She entertained the idea of opening a surrogacy agency but the project never really took off. N u pleaded guilty of murdering ur husband. Like in their movies. The children should have been receiving therapy throughout. Just before 11 P.M., Diane Downs reportedly pulled her blood-soaked car up to the door of McKenzie-Willamette Hospital and screamed, Somebody just shot my kids!, Photo by: Diane Downs [Wikimedia Commons]. The tape of Christie and her adoption by the prosecutor are facts. Something that would never stand in court now. In the blog, there is a link on the subject of bipolar people who tend to laugh at the wrong time. View Dean Knickerbocker's profile on LinkedIn, the world's largest professional community. So many of the cases Lise writes about on this blog either have no forensic evidence that supports the verdict or have very misleading forensic evidence that may or may not support the verdict, depending on who is interpreting it. It was pretty apparent during the course of this saga that the media and the state were willing to give a free pass to anyone willing to badmouth Diane. I dont care what Diane Downs says at the parole board hearing, except if she is innocent or guilty. I dont understand how the family court managed to isolate 2 severely traumatized and grievously injured children from their entire family. They should have stayed out of it instead of contributing to her revictimization. (her family confirmed that she had a mood disorder, possibly bipolar 2), So when Dr. George Suckow from the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was called as a States rebuttal witness and he made a professional diagnosis of Diane as histrionics, antisocial and narcissistic, he openly said in court that he interviewed Diane for 1 hour and read evidence presented by the state to make his diagnosis.. A group of ladies formed a group called HELDD which stands for Help Exonerate & Liberate Diane Downs. Instead of shooting the little kids, why didnt the carjacker/killer (CK) simply shoot DD dead and take her car? At first I thought she did it, now I made further research and I dont know what to think. Why? Foote denied the motion and declared you have an attorney, use him.. I point out some obvious facts and discrepancies, and that due process was shoved aside because the state and the media presented a guilty image right from the start. Standards of conduct are defined by state law, but they generally require a judge to avoid appearances of impropriety, such as avoiding deciding a dispute in which the judge is personally involved in the issue at stake or has a relationship to one of the parties.. Dianes automobile was secured and examined and no gun was found. This unexpected proposal took Diane by surprise at a large family gathering. But I am realistic. Diane had thought that her own three kids were the reason why they werent together, and thus, apparently decided to take matters into her own hands. It simply states the facts of the case. Inside, outside, top to bottom. When she returned to the hospital, Downs was informed that Cheryl was dead, but her other two children had survived the attack. Let others know about your loved one's death. Robert Craig KNICKERBOCKER Tucson, Arizona Dec 25, 1932 - May 15, 2015 Plant Memorial Trees Not the right person? Add a Memory Send a note, share a story or upload a photo. Instead, there is blood splatter on the ceiling of the car. Basically, I dont believe the site owner has produced enough proof of anything. We, who watched her parole hearing a few years ago prayed HARD that she wouldnt be set free, know she is guilty. When they assess the conduct of an inmate, what counts is mostly how she behaves inside through the years and if she shows violent tendencies. No excuse there. Mind: Wrongful convicted. Phone Number: (520) 293-QPFP +2 phones. The timing of her arrival at the hospital should have been discussed and explained in more details. Page 35 of Case History. Most were married because Diane had no desire to remarry. The presence or absence of records for any individual is not a guarantee of any kind. A very reasonable request that was rejected. Judges are subject to certain ethical standards and have a duty to be impartial. I do not have to put any statement advising people that I am about to present the neglected aspects of the trial. Background details that you might want to know about Robert include: ethnicity is unknown, whose political affiliation is none; and religious views are listed as unknown. People can have a certain vibe and act out of the norms, but it does not make them necessarily guilty. It sounds like this was not the case with Dianes children. Oh my. Are you still taking comments by email? You cannot skip due process because of mob mentality. As far as her innocence goes and the possibility of being paroled if she admitted her crime, Diane strongly maintains her innocence. Q. This is a more common route for children with parents who are incarcerated for what looks to be the entire childhood of the children. WatchandWager will be operating harness racing at the Arizona Downs racetrack according to the terms of a newly signed deal. Gun shot residue is not always present. 2. A group of ladies formed a group called HELDD which stands for Help Exonerate & Liberate Diane Downs. The casing from the bullets exactly matched, just like a fingerprint, the bullets that Diane had in her home from her own gun which was never found. Right after the shooting, little Danny would ask the nurses, , Even Ann Rule in her book, keeps mentioning that, Every time, she said she did not know, they told her to think again and made suggestions. Receive a notification when services are updated. Robert K Knickerbocker. This video has Dianes attorney, Jim Jagger, at 1 minutes and 20 seconds that might have some good shots. I was a patient of the doctor who worked so hard to save her childrens lives that night. Diane was pregnant during the trial so if found not guilty, how would she have regained the love of her life? The strong, emotive language. She waseighteen and soon realized that she had jumped from the fire into the frying pan. I feel compelled to comment on this blog, because having recently read Ann Rules book, I feel exactly as you did. Id like to challenge some of the bloggers claims. so which one is it????? She said She did it. Foote ruled in favor of the prosecution and against the defenseon most of the admissible evidence questions including all the nurses notes about Danny talking about a man shooting him but admitted Christies reports about her mother shooting her. He separated from his wife and was going to follow Diane who, by now, had decided to move and work in Oregon to be closer to her parents. Being interested in a subject without bringing emotions to the table is always the most important step. I know several foster parents and social workers. As soon as Diane was found guilty, Hugi demanded that Diane be evaluated by a psychiatrist before sentencing so they could declare her a dangerous offender and give her a stiffer sentence. He strung her along, played with both womens emotions, and after saying he would join her in Oregon, reneged and stayed with his wife. Meaning it was unlikely she was the shooter. I just tried to find a video or article about Hugi and I only get the one or two that I already have. Barry Sheck and bis crew of investigators should get involved. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. I dont. It should be removed from the blog. All Filters. I bet the records are and always have been sealed regarding this aspect of the case. You have funeral questions, we have answers. YouTube is a video-sharing website where users can upload and watch videos, subscribe to user channels and leave comments. But in their defense, they were told at trial what gun was used by Diane to shoot the kids and it must have been very difficult to overcome the emotions brought on by the words of little Christie even if it was pretty obvious during her testimony that she was confused and unreliable. Why was no one in the family given the right to adopt them. I would like to raise the numerous issues with this blog. . According to Diane, she then saw a man on the road flagging her and stopped thinking he needed help. The person who shot the kids was leaning inside the car because they were shot at close range. But you sure did comment like a true asshole, huh? Lived In Phoenix AZ, Salt Lake City UT, Spring TX . Until the end of the trial. But, after she had moved to Oregon for her job with the U.S. postal service, Roger reconciled with his wife. An attractive woman whose two children were killed in mysterious circumstances and the cops decided to go after her. As far as Hugi is concerned, it was a total conflict of interest. How.. they attacked him. The detectives took Diane to the crime scene and were able to retrieve shell cases on the ground where the incident happened. I understand that the authorities were afraid to leave the two remaining children under her care if they thought she was guilty, but they could have been released to the grandparents or other blood relatives with supervised visits from their mom considering that she was not charged with any crime. 3 records for "Robert Knickerbocker" in "Pima County". On a side note, what do you think of parole of Leslie Van Houton? Read more: ABC News, ABC News (2), Salem News, Salem News (2), Oregon Live, The Washington Post, Murderpedia, Find Law. This is what I try to do when I research a case that was deemed to be a slam dunk. To have separated Christie from her brother and the rest of the family to be able to get her mom was unconscionable. It was half baked escape plans that were more in her head than anything and that the media enjoyed blowing out of proportions. Hugi got the evidence needed to convict after numerous meetings with Christie. Is. At least two of those school mates reported Christies tortured confession to their mother She said a bunch of really stupid things in the media (my kids were lucky, not me gets the palm) and basically bury herself. Diane Frederickson was born August 7, 1955 in Phoenix, Arizona. He knows as he was in court and must have photos. Thats the problem with high profile cases. I guess he did not want too many people to know about the improprieties that happened in his courtroom. The photo of Hugi I used is the one you find when you do a search online for Fred Hugi who prosecuted Diane Downs. Did CK shoot at car when DD drove away? Ive done my research. At what point during these meetings did she start calling him Dad? A 1951 graduate of Johnson City High School and retired after 20 years from the United States Air Force. Our legal system is not perfect. Her children deserved the whole truth and nothing but the truth. They rarely get a break. Robert Willard Knickerbocker, 72. Select the best result to find their address, phone number, relatives, and public records. Fred Hugi was pretty upset when Ann Rule went Hollywood with his case. The State produced a witness (Ms. Patterson) to testify that Diane Downs entered the hospital bathroom, left the door open, and ran water in the sink (Appendix 87, page 476). $30k AVERAGE INCOME Our wealth data indicates income average is $30k. She had been the bread winner for most of her marriage, and never wavered in her desire to bring financial stability to her family. Authorities confirm former fugitive, Leticia Smith was extradited from Mexico to California. She should have had the lawyer of her choice and if they wanted to charge her with the crimes, they should have stuck with what evidence and circumstances they had. Her case was too public and they are afraid of public backlash. As a result, he decided not to attend the rest of the trial. He freely admitted HE decided to ask for a divorce on his birthday without consulting Diane, who was out of town Yes, like many Americans, I think that the US system is barbaric. Dianes dad died a year or two ago. They felt safe there. Considering the lack of evidence, it seems that she was condemned mostly because of herinappropriatestatements and behavior. My opinion of why Mr. Hugi adopted Christie and Danny was to seal their lips. My guess is the grandparents were so overwhelmed with Dianes case that they let the system take care of the kids at first. U seem very one sided on every case Ann Rule has ever written just as u claim she did to u. N her parents didnt want custody of the children just like the father. She was harshly judged because of her demeanor. Diane now had the title of dangerous offender. I have no idea whether or not she was guilty of the crime. But, Diane also claimed that Robert had told her that he was planning on leaving his wife and moving to Oregon to be with her. Investigators found out that Diane had written letters to Robert almost every day, but they were almost all returned to her unopened. There were many problems with her trial and that matters. Interesting that the article has one of the same elements that Diane perpetrated when she drove to the hospital the night of the murders she made more of a fuss about her arm injury than she did about one of her kids dying and two of them being gravely and permanently wounded. BUT like you rightly explain, there was no real evidence of her guilt. 2. At the time, among 49 prisoners denied parole, the board had given only four inmates, including Downs, a 10-year wait. She is a monster and belongs in prison for the rest of her life. Her flat affect is even more pronounced now and it did her in at the time, but she was lucid enough to clearly see that Rule and the media used Becky for their personal gain. So the hell with no gun, no GSR, no blood and no witnesses except a sick child who denied knowing who shot them until she could not anymore and happened to be adopted by the prosecutor; making it look like she could never change her mind and reveal that she has no memory of the shooting and maybe have the case reversed. I know that most people think she is guilty. I guess Diane forgot to have that part engraved on the Unicorn. Farrah had trouble with the law because of a passionate love affair with a movie director. When you hear her in interviews she sounds more concerned with herself than her kids. It should have raised a red flag concerning her mental stability or the possibility that more people were involved. Despite all of this: that the attorney became a Foster Carer irrelevant, inflammatory, subjective and bears no reflection on the trial, or indeed the trial outcome. The family moved to Mesa, Arizona, and Diane and Steve worked at the same mobile-home manufacturer. In fact, Diane had consulted a psychologist after the tragedy and after months of consultation, she was never diagnosed as a sociopath. In 1991, David Brewer, a juror who deliberated Dianes fate in her 1984 trial, came forward to say he and another juror had decided to acquit Downs by the close of the States presentation. 4. This happened in 1983, not 1893. I think that the US system is barbaric I went on ebay and ordered multiple stuff from the 80s, news footage, just to hear what she sounded like, because of all the talk in the book about her demeanor. Downs was constantly provoked by inmates because of the nature of her situation, and she never once attacked or defended herself in a violent manner. You have a photo of Diane before the parole board. It was never a slam dunk. Its as if they cant control it. He could not during the marriage so he walked away. That she had no blood or gun powder anywhere when she allegedly shot at close range? Can you imagine your little boy growing up to beat to death (with his bare hands and boots) Is she referring to her ex husband? Great blog post, thank you. Diane, of her own admission, had plenty of affairs while she worked at the Post Office. On the night of May 19, 1983, Downs was driving with her three children. Mainly because the courts have to give every chance possible and all the services necessary to the bio family to try to preserve the relationship. In an earlier comment you stated that Diane had met all of the requirements for parole. I think that you are right about certain things not being ignored. ), Interesting suggestion. Whats wrong with the system is whats wrong with us. 2. It was not unlike brainwashing. As you might know, Dianes father passed away after many years of anguish over the fate of his daughter. Not meaning to sound disrespectful, but you seem to be doing what you accuse Ann Rule of doing. Where is the blood spatter on Diane? She took care of herself not her children. Our laws are not written that way. The Case of Liysa Northon Who Said True Crime Does not Pay? In the 1996 Federal Petition, you can find the Anatomy of Brainwashing that can answer any question on this subject. Lack of blood spatter is not evidence of innocence Especially when a shooter is leaning in and shooting into a box (car) while standing outside. I read the letter they sent to the Downs when they were fighting to see their grandchildren. 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