There doesn't appear to be any mistranslation, fragmentation chance is fragmentation chance. Could you add a example equation about armor durability damage? Nofood's strength is getting the data, unfortunately him and Veritas don't have the communication skills or desire to pass it along to the rest of us. UNBANNED! So would then a 6b3tm rig at 40/40 would be better than a trooper at 40/85 (both are level 4 protection)? If the bullet does not penetrate, blunt damage is applied, which lets through a % of the base damage of the bullet to the body part hit. Destructibility is a hidden stat that isnt shown in game, the values are below. Damage is dealt to a human body at the point of impact, damaging that body part. So its fragments plus the bullet. Blunt throughput damage for all helmets is increased by 20%, while for armor vests and rigs is increased by 40%. a 25/25 would be the same durability and pen chance as a 25/80. Some examples: Can you see a pattern here? Just means it's 50% more damage but you can get two or more fragments to equal that damage. There is no trace of this in the game. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Table of all calibers and their penetration chance against certain armor classes Bullets are also capable of penetrating walls and body parts, enabling the same round to damage multiple parts. If a ricochet occurs it is the same as the helmet stopping the penetration as far as the penetration calculation is concerned, and blunt damage and durability damage continue as they would normally, however the health and durability damage is significantly lowered to the point that there is almost no blunt damage received and the helmet almost always takes the minimum durability damage, which is 1. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. MalsorisTv I love running 7.62x51 because of the power of the bullets, m62 is amazing all wipe, m61 is good for sniping and m80 is budget early to mid wipe. May someone explain me how it works please ? The Ears cover a 60 degree horizontal angle on both sides of the head between the Nape and the Eyes zone, going down to about the start of the neck on the head model. Armor penetration also shows what class it's rated/good against (this also adapts to changes in armor class resistances) Its probably tough to program the ability of travel for each type of fragment / bullet type, also likely wanting to be based on where the hit lands, path of entry, internal body systems.. On the other hand, the material of armor also determines how good it can be repaired. The specific flight characteristics of a bullet is determined by the ammo type, and the chance of a bullet penetrating or ricocheting off of an object is determined by the material of the object and the type of bullet. An excerpt from our latest episode on the Pogcast!! Is it even implemented into the game ? Most penetrations will be around 20% damage reduction when a bullet starts to penetrate an armor, but things like a PACA vs M995 will result in 0% reduction. Your previous content has been restored. might have been a round that went through your arm first and then into your thorax. The head hitbox is split into 5 protection zones, each correlating with an angle of impact. If a bullet strikes a helmet within a certain range of angles, the round has a chance to ricochet determined by how shallow the angle is as well as the ricochet chance of the helmet. Most of the ammo is 5.56x45mm which makes it even more powerful than we thought. They assume reading comprehension. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. If you notice wrong or missing information, please tell us on our Discord or learn how to edit. Change). This is most clear with hollow point rounds like the ones named RIP, which have a 100% fragmentation chance and thus should be dealing 50% more damage to non-armored limbs. So two fragments of a bullet with 100 damage and pen value would each have 25 damage and pen value, but 4 created from the same bullet would have 12.5 damage and pen value. The minimum durability damage armor can take from a single hit is 1, including from individual buckshot pellets. Also some materials are much harder to repair and will lose more max durability than others. They play a big role in firefights and often determine the outcomes. Ryagi, I started taking a dvl with m61 that does only 70 dmg but still ends up zeroing the 80hp thorax in one hit. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Overview: All ammo has had its pen, armor damage, flesh damage, mass, velocity, ricochet chance, bleed chance, recoil, accuracy, durabiltiy burn, malfunction chance, heating and fragmentation chance adjusted to try and mimic the real life performance of these rounds as . By For example many RIP rounds have a 100% chance to fragment, but this is actually 0 because they simply don't have enough pen. Rant: I've played since second ever wipe, and I believe the game is so unfriendly to new players by now that i Press J to jump to the feed. Damage value * number of fragments = potential damage. Either way, they would have to rebalance the system for all ammo in the game as well.. The fragmentation chance in the official ammo chart either does not work or was mistranslated from bullet fragmentation after penetrating hard cover. Upvoted. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Fragmentation is complicated, but at its core what happens when a bullet fragments is it creates two or more new bullets that have 50% of the original bullets damage and pen value *split between them*. There have been some patches however where Fragmentation mechanics for rounds of this nature are adjusted. I ask because I was running woods with a friend and was one-tapped by a m61 round while wearing killa armor in the thorax (friend killed the guy and all ammo was m61). Yes the bigger the percentage is from the original value is better so in your example the 6b3tm at 40/40 durability is better than a trooper armor at 40/85 just cause the trooper has higher durability doesnt mean itll retain its bullet stopping capability at the same amount of durability as other armor with lower maximum durability, Yes 6b3tm will protect for more during the first initial shot but as the armor breaks down in a shot or two compared to the troopers 5 or 6 shots, you are MIGHT BE more protected with the trooper in the end. Durability of armor is important, the lower the current % of durability remaining the less protection the armor offers overall. Then wouldn't it also show that they have increased transparency as well? I'd like to know the mechanics myself! After looking at my recording, I am sure I had full health in the thorax before being hit and was only hit once. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); https://www.twitch.tv/nofoodaftermidnight, 0.12 Armor Durability Table - Explanation Inside - 4Game. I was doing a night run (no armour, backpack, shotgun with ap/20) because i needed to finish some quests. Escape from Tarkov Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. The maximum probability of fragmentation is 1. I noticed that slug had actually a solid 100% chance of fragmentation. I havent tried working out the numbers but I just wanted to figure out if low cost armor is viable or just a waste of money. How does the COO not know how his own game works, honestly. Control your character freely - smooth speed and stance changes and transitions, leaning and proning. I wouldn't say this affects bug testing unless there is a bug that we only realized because of this graph (correct me if I'm wrong, but there isn't any). Bullets are also capable of penetrating walls and body parts, enabling the same round to damage multiple parts. Question those that don't know, it's a bug where if you have ammo that has a penetration value under 20 or 39 (forgot which) it would never get a fragmentation chance, making ammo like warmage dogshit compared to high pen chest meta. So no matter what armor youre wearing they always provide the same area of protection to whatever body parts they say they protect on their inspection screen. September 9, 2021 in Questions, Recent happenings with blacked limbs, and comments about blackened chest/head from Nikita has gotten me thinking about another bug some of us might be aware of. This% is based on the specific armor's "blunt throughput" stat, the pen value of the ammo, and the armor's class and remaining durability%. Bullet weight 5,4 g, muzzle velocity 445470 m/s. You can see what parts of the body are protected when you inspect the armor. You can hit these by aiming for the very sides of the head when faced forward, even shooting past the actual model will hit the hitbox because it is larger than the head model. The only logical conclusion I can realize is that there is a chance of fragmentation post-pen. I'm pretty new to this game. If you want to find the effective durability of different armor to compare how durable different armors are, use the following formula: EffectiveDurability = Durability/Destructibility. From what I can tell as it is now, bullets with less than 20 pen have a 0% chance to fragment, even if that bullet is "Supposed to" have a chance to. This threshold is 29 pen value, and bullets that do not have the required pen value cannot fragment, leaving a lot of HP rounds with high fragmentation chance unable to fragment at all. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. So it'd be 1(base damage)+.5(bonus fragmentation damage)=1.5, Im pretty sure its 50% more because if you hit the full damage goes through, then the frag damage goes through at roughly half the full damage. UNBANNED! Powered by Invision Community. 5.7x28mm R37.X (R37.X) is a 5.7x28mm ammunition type in Escape from Tarkov.. There is a strong correlation between the penetration chance the penetrating round had, and the damage reduction applied to it: The higher the chance the less damage reduction, with high armor classes and high pen values of ammo having lower reductions than others. If you are using a phone, turn it sideways for a full view. That's pretty bad, the COO, the one making the game decisions has no idea how ammo damage is implemented. Far from being the most effective round, but believe us - you definitely don't want to be on the receiving end of the weapon loaded with it. From what I have been reading, it seems the flesh damage of each round with sub 20 pen, that has a high fragmentation chance, is inflated in a way to compensate for the current fragmentation bug And when they are able to implement the fragmentation mechanic on these rounds, their flesh damage will be lowered to balance and compensate for the high chance to fragment. . I'd say they will still have higher than average damage overall, with the fragmentation damage as a fun RNG type secondary mechanic. Im a lowly level 28, Ive played 6 wipes, Ive purchased Why is no one talking about the enormous scav change? Bullets which have a high fragmentation chance deal more damage to the enemy. Be aware of real-life ballistics and projectile hit physics. M995 has less pen, is 4 times more expensive and cant even onetap a ulach 50% of the time because of dmg reduction against armour. Make bullets fragment when they penetrate flesh which makes it more realistic (fragment on hitting bone). People state numerous times that fragmentation is broken, especially on the nofoodaftermidnight where the bullet doesn't fragment if it is below 20 penetrate. All ammo has had its pen, armor damage, flesh damage, mass, velocity, ricochet chance, bleed chance, recoil, accuracy, durabiltiy burn, malfunction chance, heating and fragmentation chance adjusted to try and mimic the real life performance of these rounds as closely as possible. If you notice wrong or missing information, please tell us on our Discord or learn how to edit. Otherwise, zoom in or press on the grey area of each table to swipe them. Features: Adds Damage, Damage to armor, Armor penetration, Fragmentation chance and Ricochet stats to the inspect view All of these have icons Damage shows total as well as individual damage of all pellets! Hitboxes are always the same, whether you're clad in armor or completely naked, they never change in size or shape. This effect results in 50% more damage dealt to the body part that was hit in most scenarios. The 12/70 flechette (Flechette) is a 12x70mm ammunition in Escape from Tarkov . Cookie Notice The chance for a bullet to fragment is based on the bullets fragmentation chance. Display as a link instead, Don't kill streamers if you want to keep your account. While ceramic armor like Zhuk-6a and Gzhel-K will be almost broken after 2 repairs, Slick and Killa armor can be repaired many times and still retain good defense. When your body is hit, if that body part that was hit (or head zone) has body armor or a helmet protecting it, the game checks to see if the bullet penetrates or doesn't. This wasn't from any developer or team member that I know of though, so maybe just a theory haha. I have searched for answers to this question online but have yet to find any (To my knowledge) with actual dev responses. We are all thinking that fragmentation is bugged but it actually is not. Pasted as rich text. The unofficial Subreddit for Escape From Tarkov, a Hardcore FPS being created by Battlestate Games. Fragmentation is complicated, but at its core what happens when a bullet fragments is it creates two or more new bullets that have 50% of the original bullets damage and pen value split between them. Choosing the right weapon, ammo and gear is one of the most important parts in coming out on top of fighting. There's no trace of it in the game files either. The chance is then rolled to determine whether or not the bullet penetrates. The minimum durability damage armor can take from a single hit is 1, including from individual buckshot pellets. It's easy to prove it doesn't do what he thinks it does. If the bullet penetrates, it deals between 0% and 40% less damage based on an algorithm that uses the bullets pen value and the armors class and durability %. For Escape From Tarkov Information and Game Mechanics. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. So when you buy an armor, if its 0/80 and you can repair it to 75/75, that would be better than buying a 68/68. Rarely the fragments can penetrate the body part and hit another body part due to the fragments change in direction that normally wouldnt be hit, causing damage to nearby body parts. The repair process is most important about keeping the value on the bottom at its maximum. haha. mesokrzee If the fragmentation chance in tables below is at 0.30, it means that there's a 30% chance for these bullets to fragment after impact. Its important to note that both the Ears zone and the unzoned head below it is visible from the front due to the cylindrical shape of the hitbox and the front zones angles only being 120 degrees wide. 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