I am trying to wrap my head around this Christian lawyer who claims to be a victim advocate. Its what Las Vegas would be if Ned Flanders was running it.. The major media companies wont report on these issues. As an old socialist (FDR style) who also believes in free dialogue, I like to be in the know about the ideas of those who dont believe as I believe. As you well know, we disagree vehemently on a number of issues, but were holding hands on this issue, Jack. (He remained in Kanakuk's employ until 2009.) Just PR spinning about something doesnt make it so. ave they announced who is Gods Choice THIS year? Many years ago, one of my East Coast contacts gave me a book titled ANTI CHRIST, a historical trace of the idea of Antichrist. I wish to thank again all of those who have websites and our choosing to shed light on these church scandals. I think there are things you can do to teach your kids what to look for, and teach your church what to look for. -This post is focusing on Peter Newman due to his relationship with Fellowship Memphis. Hoffpauir grew up in Branson. Well, Boris & Natasha were as Psevdorussky as you could get. The police will generally only end up arresting the actual offender, which doesnt do anything to change the hiring practices, system protection in place, etc. And we had nothing to do with children. @ BeenThereDoneThat: Thank you, ladies for your hard work. The problem is that people who abuse in such a fashion are SKILLED liars! We never hear about it from that end of things. So he started a witch hunt over charismata. People complain about lawyers taking a 35 to 40 percent fee if theres an award, but fail to remember that this includes all the costs of bringing the case and that can be a significant outlay of cash up front with no expectation of return. Thats why Im a Done, and my kids dont go to church. And make use of all they hear! We no longer go to church, but we are the Church, weve just found other, safer ways of meeting together that dont involve narcissistic/dangerous/abusive men and their vicious little fiefdoms. One reason I dont trust him is because he thinks its a sin to sue the body of Christ (which, in Scripture he is referencing, is people not a non profit status institution) when the scriptures clarify not suing for trivial matters. May 26, 2022, 4:15 AM. When we became aware of this situation we took . is a licensed attorney and a former chief sex crimes prosecutor. He spoke to thousands of kids every year through LifeWay. :o), We have this notionthat we certainly dont get from the Biblethat Christians should look good and be so sweetly genuine and wonderful. First: I have never commented but I read this blog frequently. @ Headless Unicorn Guy: First: I have never commented but I read this blog frequently. Again, never mind the theology behind that idea and the opposition to that idea. He is not advocating for the victims in a church (his personal definition of what Church is, I might add) case. Be still and know that I am God? The letter-writers called Kanakuk's reporteduse of NDAs one of many "intimidation tactics" thecamp uses to stifle allegations of sexual assault and protect its reputation. . It was freaky seeing all these ancient country and music stars up close and personal with enough makeup and plastic surgery scars to plug up the river. Putting a building on a pedestal does not fall in that category. They need to be got out of positions where they can knowingly expose innocents to harm. Those who have evil to hide are very, very good at hiding it. He has no problem taking money from the Church for his own pockets when training them, just not when it comes to getting money for actual victim?? And they wouldnt sign, to their credit. The idea being that if you have confessed your sins and repented and asked God for forgiveness then you are forgiven by God. And then the dominoes started to fall. I dont understand why Christian organizations feel that they have to reinvent the wheel or use Christian versions of products. I just bang my head against the wall. The abuse itself began in a relatively "minimal" way, Dygert said. There he is alone with God Whose Voice echoes in his depths.. These dudes are hired hands and dont care about the Lords flock. Also,there seems to be an established Christian promotional/marketing thing that that pushes all these groups and ideas, so if one had a contrary message, not sure how they would get it heard. I talked about worship services and the presence or absence of reverence as related to my childhood church and my current church. They even have a public relations specialist.. The only bad part: I missed the Oak Ridge boys by a week. Im not providing a link because its obvious that Kamp Kanakuk did a lousy, horrible job of stopping abuse and is now trying to avoid the very real consequences of Joe Whites decisionmaking with regards to Peter Newman. Is that why I enjoyed Shrek? In the summer of 2003, the petition says, Newman lured the children with a yellow jeep into "spending time with him on Kanakuk property.". https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/manassas-youth-pastor-faces-new-charge-in-case-involving-teenage-girls/2016/08/31/84ea71c2-6f78-11e6-8533-6b0b0ded0253_story.html. Milton Friedman talked about how you have to make it profitable for people to do the right thing, I think punitive is just the opposite of that, you make it costly to do the wrong thing. Churches "Stop knocking yourselves out to distance yourself and let the buck fall at your feet where it belongs.". Who are the expert witnesses who can ascertain the damage done to a groomed and molested 12 year old? I dont think they are a biblical movement at all, but just use the Bible as a way to get gullible Christians to join. It is obvious that the judge realized the extent of Newman's crimes by the unusual length of the sentence. No one else said it was wrong. Ive posted the video here a few times of Greg Loves talk at DTS. And if not dealt with properly their credibility ruined forever. Just a short off-topic note. Hard to tell whos who and who did what with so many of these clowns milling around scratching each others backs. I know several good and wonderful Catholic people from St. Matthews parish here in my area. Thats why they have to take over churches instead of planting new ones. Open Discussion Page. That is justice considering how hard it is to catch them. Is she lying on purpose? We heard a few stories of payroll money going missing to buy new cars for the Apostle and his son. Needless to say that was not either of the leading two that we now have to choose from. (Id also have no problem suing a church into oblivion if their negligence caused my child harm.) I knew a lot of them in seminary. But I dont know that this movement appeals to as many people as they seem to think it will. And Christians should stop giving their money to these abusive churches. Sovereign Grace Ministries Have a young friend, barely into his thirties, and the head and associate pastor at his wonderful neocal church are painfully young, both about his age, he hasnt been attending this church long, but he absolutely raves about how genuine and humble these guys are. I dont view PP and the like as fundamentalists but politicians selling their personal brand. I have heard that Dolly Parton has a show/theater there, too. It was a horrible situation for them. The issue being this is my body..blood and what the meaning of the word is is. HUG, there may be another, albeit more difficult, option. The electric bill is almost 300 this month due to the heat/humidity thank goodness its finally lowering in temp. Add to that they tend to believe the molester (when caught) and how sorry they are. However, when I google soul competency for a definition what I see there does not seem to be what you are saying, so we may be talking about two different things. Do they then, trust themselves as enlightened by the Holy Spirit; or do they then lay aside their own encounter with Scriptures and accept what they are told it means by leadership? And this is not the only difference. :o). I guess he wouldnt have clientel to train and make a salary from if he had a reputation for suing on behalf of victims. I dont get it. This is worth fighting for. You know what? (my mom came back thinking that was as about as low class and crass as one could get. said in an interview on Tier Talk (for the corrections industry) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRtccELtlJw. And future victims in that Church need protection from a leadership staff that knowingly would even let danger in the door. Yandell and his parents reached a civil settlement with Kanakuk in 2010 regarding abuse Yandell suffered at the hands of Newman, who is now in prison on two life sentences for sexually abusing multiple children at the evangelical summer camp. After all they cant sign the membership contract covenant. Unfortunately, it seems to indicate that Fellowship Memphis does not take either child sex abuse or voyeurism seriously. .more. it is almost impossible for a cult situation to develop where submitting to authority is man-dated. Our informant, having heard about the Newman situation,questionedBryan Lorittsabout Peter Newman'sposition at the church. The real church following the real Jesus produces disciples who grow in the FRUIT of the spirit, not the mere knowledge of some religious system. They are just normal people. @ Christiane: . I dont agree we are talking about Christian institutions that want to do the right thing. Now THATS a Baptist college to be proud of! HA. The baptist church of my earliest years had a quote from the bible carved over the doors between the vestibule/narthex and the church/nave. However, it is because of Pete, that I have developed a worldview that acknowledges the power of sin and that no one is immune to the influence of the flesh. Loves program. Kanakuk said in its most recent IRS filing thatrevenues topped $31.6 million in 2019. If we question, then we are labeled not trusting and that is one of the deadly sins. Even when long time Christian leaders are caught, excuses are made because we are all sinners. Im going to disagree with you on that. () I didn't even want to think about my past. But not "Christian" groups, they cover it up, ignore it and move on!! Like barbarians, the most vulnerable are just collateral damage to them while protecting institutions and titles. NO PARENTS were ever told about any of this. Sola scriptura. -Kanakuk's cost-saving policies encouraged employees recruiting campers in the off-season to stay with families, providing opportunities for Newman to zero in on potential victims. I think they have good intentions but nothing brings out truth better than discovery. I have had a calling towards Student Ministry for many years and volunteered alongside Pete at the local Methodist Church. And I will say to them, be gone from Me I never knew you, workers of lawlessness. I wonder how many more will be done with the institutional church because Bryan Loritts then hired the guy and minimized his crimes. Sammy uploaded his videos to the internet so the threat of these videos being seen by the world looms to this day. Hm. There always has been a small percentage that are good and a larger percentage that are not. It only stopped, Hoffpauir said, when he and Madison began seriously dating. I am not against prevention. They were outspoken, they were athletic, they were the people you wanted to be, the kids you couldnt be, at least, because I didnt have money growing up. What is that pastors name? http://www.vachss.com/. And there are decent leaders out there who teach instant forgiveness and repentance, too, which doesnt help. It might have been the first time he was abused; he can't remember. He was the pastor who allegedly kept thing on the down low. But people go because its pretty or to shop or because its close. Pete Newman's Apology. When it comes to the kids, we cant afford not to. I think this leaning on leaders is contingent on an absence of education and training in the working of God-given moral conscience as a part of Christian formation. As the News-Leader reported last month, the unsigned open letter argued that Kanakuk should agree to an external, independent investigation by a law firm. ", Later, while Newman workedat one of Kanakuk's overnight camps, Dygert visited him on the job. They thrive on it. Second: I am commenting only to add some insight to the discussion. Ive read so many cases in the news now, Id be paranoid to take my kids to church or have them involved in any Christian stuff. The report states that Kanakuk did not limit Newmans access to boys. . Join a small fellowship that preaches Jesus and Him crucified but has no desire to become the next mega/multi-site/church planting hub/trendy/etc. And I will say to them, be gone from Me I never knew you, workers of lawlessness. and that is a problem for our witness, the right to lifers who used this for political purposes but didnt commit to it fully, come off as hypocritical to say the least . When I received the phone call in 09 from a mutual friend about what Pete had done, I was in total shock. There are wolves in sheeps clothing. @ BeenThereDoneThat: One more thing in one of the articles, another lady was asked to stop being in the choir because she wrote a letter to the church in support of her friend. I havent bought anything for years. My wife came home early from church last week, apparently the sermon was quite graphic about appropriate sex between a man & a woman. Pretty sick stuff. The Church will always be the Body of Christ. Hoffpauir said his mother, who only learned about his abuse experience in early February, "is doing awful. The fact that he was paid as a contractor was irrelevant to the amount of spiritual authority, trust and access that he had and abused. I wonder how many have had their outlook on life disfigured because Paul Newman molested them and because Joe White did not fire him and report him to the police. Are people being instructed to rely solely on leadership for ALL moral direction and not to run it through their own consciences where they can consider their own personal situations in real time, and pray for guidance??? So this is hitting close to home. If White had not read any of this easily available information, then he had not business being in the business of camp.. How did Berny Madoff get the trust of all of his investors, or other finical con artist? Its public record, and that pastor needs to get famous. but just one of many reasons. Well, Loren, you can share my cave if it comes to that . You will see Joe White CEO, Doug Goodwin President, and Kris Cooper former director state that they knew that Newman was getting naked with under age boys on multiple occasions as early as 1999, and also sleeping one on one with them. We no longer go to church, but we are the Church, weve just found other, safer ways of meeting together that dont involve narcissistic/dangerous/abusive men and their vicious little fiefdoms. They certainly seem militant, OKRAPOD, yes. I cant respect that at all. Quite possibly. @ Lydia: Kanakuk will also call on the CEO of a camp consulting firm to testify that the 2003 streaking incident was handled appropriately and that "there is no evidence of gross negligence or malicious conduct by Joe White or camp management. Loritts allegedly responded It was just some skinny dipping thing.. In this video you will see Kanakuk leaders explaining under oath what they knew years before Newman was arrested in 2009. If an individual is at fault through malice, incompetence, etc, the individual should be held responsible. That same year, Kanakuk Kamps Director Pete Newman was criminally charged and convicted of abusing dozens of campers. If you question what I say to you Just remember the side effect like Muslims after 9/11, Christians will circle the wagons against PERSECUTION!!!!! Ive posted the video here a few times of Greg Loves talk at DTS. It is so hard for people to understand how it works. Here is another example: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/01/widespread-abuse-uncovered-during-investigation-into-rhode-island-boarding-school.html. A Tennessee man filed a lawsuit Friday claiming that operators of the Kanakuk in Branson, Missouri, lied to him and his parents while persuading them to . Eagle has written a number of excellent articles at his blog Wondering Eagle on this situation as has Amy Smith at Watchkeep. Victim advocating which might include reporting crimes and bringing a lawsuit if laws are broken. Peter "Pete" Newmanpleaded guilty in Februarywithout a plea agreement to two counts of first-degree statutory sodomy, three counts of second-degree statutory sodomy, and three counts of enticement of a child. The part about him telling them what sex with women was like because he was married now? He is serving two life sentences plus 30 years in prison. When she called Sandy Wilson a narcissist, that was presumably a diagnosis, not merely name-calling. I wont argue that there are some self-serving lawyers and judges. But it is extremely disturbing to see SO many churches that are either clueless, negligent, or just plain dont care about these issues. Oh I think GRACE does strive to do thorough investigations. we have our phone bill which is 125 for both phones plus pays for internet( I paid a little extra last month) as well. But here is something which Jesus himself inaugurated and the Presence is understood differently in the Sacrament than if the doctrine of the omnipresence of God. AND more important: WITCHES hiding among us to be smelled out. Dave, did you know that Dr. Hawkes is a neuropsychologist? because I was somewhere in the process of incubating my second child and I threw up about every hour or so. Same. There are people who are suffering in silence, feeling completely alone, to the point of taking their own lives because they don't know how to cope, how to deal with it. I am well aware that if any situations arise, whether camper to camper or staff to camper, its anybodys guess if any responsible counselor will be notified, if a camper will be believed, if a parent is informed, even if a higher up staff member is informed, much less law enforcement. @ Lea: So yes, in that sense people are taught bible, which is certainly training the conscience. Maybe we should really rethink that idea. ", Hoffpauir said he's trying to be supportive. Please consider subscribing to support vital local journalism. Filed April 8, the new lawsuit names only Newman. Haw! Today's story calls into question the leadership at Fellowship Memphis in regards totheir decision to hire apedophile awaiting trial. Do you get the feeling that keeping women out of power is WAY more important to these folks than protecting them or children? When she called Sandy Wilson a narcissist, that was presumably a diagnosis, not merely name-calling. BRANSON, Mo. @ ishy: We only hear about the ones who slipped up and got caught. Huh? I think we have entered into a new realm where we have to question and be vigilant when it comes to Christian institutions and leaders. I dont view him a victim advocate at all but a protector of some institutions after abuse had occurred. The newspaper also emailed Staples through a general inbox at First Baptist Church and tried to make contact with Staples though the church's Facebook inbox, as well as through an email account linked to Staples in a public records database, and through an email form on a listing of licensed professional counselors published by Psychology Today. Its not just the few bad guys getting outed. Caring? What on earth is going on in christian land these days? In February 2010, Peter Newman pleaded guilty in Taney County to several counts of statutory sodomy and child enticement involving child abuse of a boy on Kanakuk property between approximately 2005 and 2008, records state. places like Bob Jones, SGM, etc. Loritts allegedly responded It was just some skinny dipping thing. Is there a shortage of lawyers who will sue on behalf of victims? Fellowship Memphis appears to have no problem exposing their congregation to a child sex abuser. He was fired and escorted off the premises that day. In 2010, one of the camp's senior counselors, Pete Newman, pleaded guilty to seven counts of sexually abusing boys. Hed have done better with the Three Stooges. Had Newman been caught in a sexual relationship with another consenting adult in his own age group, hed have been removed from his position as camp counselor and probably shamed and pariahed out of his church to boot. Some people have to face it very young. I went to branson in like 1990. My daughter has forwarded this link to many of her colleagues; I hope it will open eyes and help prevent sexual abuse. Semi relevant, I was reading something the other day about dating sites and a lady said that narcissists use the free sites in part because they have some sort of quizzes they can study before coming after their prey. Being held accountable .. no amount of money will EVER be enough and we know this; Thanks for sharing that. Jesus did not mince words. Sheesh, adults are hard pressed. HUG, I am sorry that happened. Maybe the best thing to do is to train church MEMBERS what to look for and to constantly be vigilant, because the leaders are just not going to do it if it goes against their interests. I mean, really, how dare they? Plaintiffs accusedother Kanakuk officials, including owner White,of being aware that Newman had abused kidsyearsbefore Newman's criminal conviction. "She's not doing well. After Newman's trial, civil lawsuit allegations emerged. In all my years as a baptist I never, that would be never, heard any emphasis on conscience per se-other than what was taught me at home that one cannot trust the conscience since it was in a fallen state. In light of all of that, Id rather have a church implement some sort of sexual abuse prevention program to mitigate the risk to children, than for a family to have to endure an uncertain legal process to seek justice for a violated child. When I received the phone call in 09 from a mutual friend about what Pete had done, I was in total shock. There are goats. No sympathy here. Its been around for a while. Why do people keep supporting such places? I do too. Merrellsaid, "I'm satisfied, but there's always a sense of gravity when someone is sentenced to life. http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/01/us/university-of-kentucky-sues-student-newspaper-sexual-assault/index.html YOU REBEL AGAINST THE FATHER, TOO! time to stop trusting in these clowns who preach that they KNOW who is saved or who is a real Christian. I hope you realize I am speaking of cover ups, hiring known abusers, etc. No wonder he didnt care. But what about when evil has been protected using Jesus for cover? In the past they were allowed to take their cell phones but not have them out during the day. They totally trust them. They protect each other. from the victims stories, I think what you are saying has credibility, yes. For lawyers to suggest that a child in this story is exaggerating the trauma he has went through is repulsive. "These are the most affluent kids in the country," he said. They've admitted to their negligence in private; we want them to admit it in publicand be held accountable. Like, 'This would take our relationship to the next level.' I had a very hard time believing any of it. Catholicism is often too far a journey to make for people not born into it, and believe me, Catholics are the first to understand how difficult it can be. Bad press maybe. Thanks, LawProf. The fact the camp is fighting this says a lot about them. And like, competitive. that children, in their lives, will come in to contact with sex offenders (including those whove never been arrested, prosecuted, and convicted). What does that mean in plain English, please? Pete began working at Kanakuk in 1995 as a counselor and then became a part of the K-Kountry leadership team in 1998. CEO and Board Chair, and his wife Debbie-Jo, Vice President, who inherited their roles from Joe's parents in the 1970s. My ex-pastor pulled a stunt like that at Easter time with visitors. Many here have referred to it as the long con. Humbly serving? But That one is more wholesome than the Milgram experiment! Let me just say, we had a situation at an office I worked in where they found someone with child porn. Beyond lawsuits, those people need to be charged with criminal negligence and the institutions need to be fined heavily, at the very least, no excuses! Elizabeth Easter wrote about this on her blog and in her book Girl at The End of The World. When we were attending a church that became part of Harvest Bible Chapel our kids went to a weekend youth camp.The leadership requested no cell phones allowed.Since my daughter went along and she was almost 18 we let the younger sibling go also with the stipulation that they were to keep the cell phone for emergencies only(meaning if the younger handfull acted up,we could intervene ) The handfull took the phone out and played games on it and got in trouble with a bunch of other kids.We all got a good smack down in that weeks sermon,even to the point of questioning our Christianity.At that point I knew that I didnt want to be apart of that church. They specialize in educating churches about abuse. What else do they not believe? I dont know if you and your family have seen former pastor David Hayward/The Naked Pastors cartoons. I once saw my manipulator younger brother spend FIFTEEN YEARS on a Long Con of personal revenge against our stepmother. Its one of the things that bothers me about GRACE that I have mentioned before. Chilling. The day the camp director found out, both counselors from that cabin were told to pack their bags and leave, and all of the parents of kids in the cabin were informed. Any sensible person would want to protect an organization from liabilities. We should not be surprised about any of this because, again, Jesus warned us before hand. My daughter did a several hour training module to work for the YMCA. I have had a calling towards Student Ministry for many years and volunteered alongside Pete at the local Methodist Church. But we are specifically talking about what is passing as the Body of Christ to the world. At fault through malice, incompetence, etc cover it up, ignore it and move on! a and. Witnesses who can ascertain the damage done to a groomed and molested year. 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